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"In the
last
four
years
our
foreign
policy
was
excellent.
We
followed
a
foreign
policy
which
was
beneficial
to Sri
Lanka.
We are
not
there to
satisfy
the
world we
were
there to
satisfy
the
people,"
stated
Defence
Secretary,
Gotabhaya
Rajapaksa
in an
interview
with
Daily
Mirror
Hot
Seat.
For
instance
we
engaged
with
India
and
developed
the best
relationship
with
them and
everyone
knows
that
India is
the main
factor.
Our
relationship
was
strong
enough
that we
were
able to
finish
the
terrorist
problem
without
any
hindrance,
he said.
Speaking
with
regard
to
Kumaran
Pathmanadan,
who is
currently
in Sri
Lankan
custody
the
Defence
Secretary
said "We
are
still in
the
process
of
gathering
information
from him
because
he was a
person
who was
working
with the
LTTE
especially
on
international
affairs,
business
and
procurement.
Therefore
we want
to get
as much
information
as
possible
and
especially
to break
into
their
(the
LTTE)
network
and get
their
assets".
Following
is the
text of
the
interview
:
How
successful
have you
been in
getting
vital
information
from
Kumaran
Pathmanadan,
who is
currently
in Sri
Lankan
custody
and will
be he
produced
before
Court
any time
soon?
We
are yet
to
decide
on the
matter
of
producing
him
before
the
Court.
We are
still in
the
process
of
gathering
information
from him
because
he was a
person
who was
working
with the
LTTE
especially
on
international
affairs,
business
and
procurement.
Therefore
we want
to get
as much
information
as
possible
and
especially
to break
into
their
(the
LTTE)
network
and get
their
assets.
In
this
area we
have
been
very
successful;
this is
why we
were
able to
apprehend
Rajan
and also
we have
already
possessed
one
ship.
Further
we have
come to
know
about a
lot of
businesses
the LTTE
had,
operating
in
various
parts of
the
world.
We have
been
able to
educate
those
countries
to close
down
some of
these
activities.
That
is the
most
important
thing;
that
through
him we
came to
know of
this
network
of
various
operations
taking
place in
many
countries,
which we
didn’t
know
earlier
and
those
countries
themselves
were
unaware
of.
Therefore
we were
very
successful,
in
getting
information
from
him.
There
are
different
businesses
they
were
running
and for
those
countries
those
were
legitimate
types of
business
and
those
are LTTE
owned or
LTTE
investments.
Therefore
if we
had not
given
the
information
these
governments
would
not
know;
that
these
were
LTTE
businesses.
Naming
countries
is of no
use,
because
when we
name the
country
those
countries
don’t
like it.
Those
countries
don’t
want to
know
that
certain
LTTE
groups
were
operating
within
their
borders
and we
had a
very bad
experience
with
regard
to
Eritrea,
an east
African
country.
It
came out
in the
newspapers
and now
Eritrea
has
completely
shut
down
everything;
they
don’t
talk to
us and
they
completely
cut us
off.
In
your
opinion
have we
really
seen the
end of
the LTTE
or does
the
threat
of their
re-emerging
still
exist?
They
have no
ability
for them
to
regroup
and
attack
or do
any
military
work.
But of
course
there
are a
lot of
things
that can
be done,
both
locally
and
internationally,
to
prevent
them
from
re-emerging.
Everyone
knows
that
there
are
still
people
in camps
and some
people
whom we
have
still
not
captured,
who may
have
gone
underground.
We still
have to
do a lot
of
intelligence
works,
so then
only we
can
arrest
those
that are
still
remaining.
Also we
have to
take
legal
action
against
those
who have
been
arrested
by the
authorities.
We also
have to
plan our
military
operations
so that
they
will not
regroup.
We have
to take
precautions,
locally
as well.
These
steps
are
local;
but
internationally
these
are
networks
that
were
operating
for over
30
years,
they had
fundraising
networks,
procurement
networks,
they had
business
networks
all over
the
world.
Therefore
we have
to work
with the
intelligence
agencies
of those
countries
and
their
governments,
to close
down
these
businesses
and
break
into
these
networks.
With
most
countries
it is
easy but
with the
western
countries
it is
very
difficult
because
there is
a very
big pro-LTTE
Tamil
Diaspora
living
there
and we
don’t
get much
cooperation
from
western
countries;
especially
the
European
countries.
So
without
their
cooperation
it is
very
difficult
to catch
these
people.
Therefore
what
they
(the
LTTE)
could
not
achieve
through
military
means
they
will try
to
achieve
through
other
means
with the
help of
these
governments.
And this
is why
they are
trying
to
establish
this
‘Transnational
Government
of Tamil
Elam’.
But
what I
see is
that
although
there is
a big
Tamil
Diaspora,
the
majority
of them
are
moderates
and
don’t
support
the
‘Eelam’
concept.
Most of
them
want to
come
back to
Sri
Lanka
and live
peacefully.
It is
only a
very
small
extreme
element
that is
trying
to
re-organize;
not
militarily
but
trying
to
achieve
the same
goal
through
other
means.
As an
IT
expert,
do you
think
that it
is
ethical
for a
government
to
infiltrate
into the
online
privacy
of Sri
Lankan
citizens
by
gathering
information,
with
regard
to their
political
affiliations ?
Actually,
if we
could do
that it
would be
good,
however
as a
third
world
country
we don’t
have
that
facility.
But in
all
other
developed
countries
they
monitor
emails,
telephone
conversations,
SMS and
people
in the
streets.
So they
have a
lot of
monitoring
systems
and also
all
their
systems
are
integrated.
Unfortunately,
ours is
not. All
security
agencies
in these
countries
could,
by
simply
giving a
number;
can
obtain
all the
details
of a
person.
But we
don’t
have
that
facility
and in
fact we
have to
develop
such a
system.
Our
Identity
card
(ID)
system
is not
effective,
so we
have to
introduce
a better
system.
We faced
a
situation
in the
past
four
years,
we saw
the
weakness
of the
ID card
system,
where
every
suicide
cardre
and
terrorist
had a
bogus
ID.
Further
our
passport
system
is not
fool-proof.
We
don’t
have a
close
Closed
Circuit
Television
(CCTV)
surveillance
system
in
Colombo;
whereas
in all
the
other
big
cities
they are
monitored.
We
can’t
monitor
SMS’s or
emails,
we need
to have
such a
system
but we
don’t
and are
not
doing
it.
Your
interview
with the
Strait
Times of
Singapore
has
sparked
a lot of
controversy.
With the
US and
Norway
denying
that
they
backed
the
Presidential
Campaign
of Gen.
Fonseka,
do you
still
stand by
your
comments ?
I
went
into
more
details
when I
spoke to
them but
they had
condensed,
it in
such a
way that
it gave
a vey
different
meaning.
What I
really
meant
was; I
have
proof
that
Norway
had
backed
Sarath
Fonseka
by
paying
journalists
to write
against
the
government
and
paying
Non-Government
Organizations
(NGOs).
It was
not
direct
hard
money
given to
Sarath
Fonseka,
they
have
used
various
methods
to give
money;
they
paid
certain
Human
Rights
activists,
a huge
sum of
money.
For a
month
they
have
given
millions,
making
it very
clear
that
this
money
was
given to
work
against
the
government
and in
support
of
Sarath
Fonseka.
So I
stand by
that
statement.
In the
case of
the US,
what I
said
was; for
the
slightest
thing
they
issue a
statement
against
the
government
but when
Sarath
Fonseka
publicly
claimed
that he
was
going to
arrest
the
President
and
arrest
the
Defence
Secretary
and put
us
behind
bars,
the US
didn’t
issue
similar
statements.
But for
any
rumour,
even
hypothetical,
they
issue a
statement
against
the
government.
We
have
arrested
Fonseka
and will
give him
a trial
according
to our
rules
and
regulations,
what
need
does the
US have
to issue
a
statement?
They
should
not have
issued a
statement,
this
shows
their
intentions.
This is
what I
said and
I stand
by it.
You
said,
also in
that
interview,
that Gen
Fonseka
was
responsible
for the
murder
of
Editor
of the
Sunday
Leader
newspaper
Lasantha
Wickrematunga.
What
evidence
do you
have to
back
these
claims ?
What
I said
was that
all the
attacks
on media
people
were
being
investigated
and I
have
very
firm,
not
evidence,
but firm
indications
that it
was done
by
Sarath
Fonseka.
“Indications”
in the
sense…....
I
know
that it
was done
by him
but I
have to
prove
those
things.
I have
to have
definite
evidence.
I have
said
that he
was the
person
who is
responsible
for
attacks
on media
not that
he
killed
anyone
and that
I am
carrying
on
investigations
on the
matter.
If he
(Gen
Fonseka)
was the
one
responsible
for
these
attacks,
then why
is it
still
happening,
even
after he
retired
from the
Army?
No it
didn’t
happen
after
that;
tell me
anybody
who was
attacked?
Lanka
enews
journalist
Prageeth
Eknaligoda
went
missing
recently…...
Eknaligoda,
he
himself
disappeared.
I know
he had a
complaint
over one
year ago
and he
resurfaced
again.
We don’t
even
know who
this
Eknaligoda
is, what
had he
done?
Anyone
can
claim
that he
is
missing
but
there
are a
lot of
people
who are
missing
for
their
own
advantage.
There
was a
pattern
those
days;
when
real
journalists
wrote
something,
they
were
attacked.
We
didn’t
even
know if
Eknaligoda
was
writing
to some
paper.
What
you are
saying
then is
that
this is
one
isolated
incident
and the
trend
has
changed
from the
time of
the war?
This has
nothing
to do
with the
war. If
you
analyze
the
situation
you see
that it
is
personal.
When the
government,
the
President
and
Ministers
were
criticized
nothing
happened
to them.
But when
anyone
had an
incident
with
Sarath
Fonseka,
this
type of
disappearance
happened.
And
at that
time the
UNP, Mr.
Ranil
Wickremasinghe,
John
Amaratunga,
Joseph
Michael
Perera
and
Range
Bandara
very
clearly
said in
Parliament
that
these
things
were
being
done by
Sarath
Fonseka.
The
government
has
constantly
claimed
that
there
was this
“international
Conspiracy”
by the
west
against
the
President.
And some
might
see the
presence
of the
UK’s
Foreign
Secretary
at the
Global
Tamil
Forum as
a means
for the
west to
get our
attention,
because
we
haven’t
been
engaging
with
them as
much as
they
would
like.
What is
your
response
to such
speculation?
In
the last
four
years
our
foreign
policy
was
excellent.
We
followed
a
foreign
policy
which
was
beneficial
to Sri
Lanka.
We are
not
there to
satisfy
the
world we
were
there to
satisfy
the
people.
For
instance
we
engaged
with
India
and
developed
the best
relationship
with
them and
everyone
knows
that
India is
the main
factor.
Our
relationship
was
strong
enough
that we
were
able to
finish
the
terrorist
problem
without
any
hindrance.
Similarly
we
developed
a good
relationship
with the
South
East
Asian
countries,
which is
an
important
factor
when it
comes to
terrorism.
Because
a lot of
LTTE
activity
their
ships,
procurement
and
leaders
were
operating
in this
region.
Likewise
we
developed
good
relations
with
China,
Russia,
Pakistan
and
Middle
Eastern
countries
so that
they
supported
us at
forums.
But
if
someone
wants to
follow
their
agenda
we can’t
allow
that, if
it is
not in
the best
interest
of Sri
Lanka.
The west
wanted
to
negotiate
with the
LTTE
instead
of
defeating
them
militarily.
We don’t
want to
be in
their
good
books
and
suffer
here.
But what
political
speculators
say is
that Sri
Lanka’s
connection
with
China
and
Russia
are
indicating
to the
west
that we
no
longer
need
them........
No
that is
not
diplomacy;
these
countries
should
understand
that we
had to
be good
with
Russia
and
China
because
we
depended
on them
a lot.
Most of
our
development
projects
are
funded
by China
and we
were
depending
on them
for our
arms.
Russia
understood
our
position
and they
never
told us
to talk
to the
LTTE,
they
supported
our
effort
to
defeat
terrorism.
Obviously
we had
to be
friends
with
Russia
who was
towing
our
line,
like
India
and
Pakistan.
We
don’t
want to
be angry
with any
country
but by
doing
that we
don’t
want to
sacrifice
our
unitary
state,
our
sovereignty
or give
in on
any
issue.
With
regard
to the
Military
tribunal
required
for the
trial of
General
Sarath
Fonseka;
how is
that
going to
be
handled,
since it
is
customary
to have
an
officer
of a
similar
or
higher
rank
sitting
on such
a bench?
It is
customary,
but not
a
necessity
in the
regulations.
If he is
the
highest
officer
then
obviously
we have
to use
equal or
junior
officers,
because
if we
don’t
have a
Field
Marshall
what can
we do.
Despite
everything
that
happened
in the
past
months
there
was a
time
when
you, the
President,
and the
Retired
General
fought
the
battle
side by
side and
you’ll
hailed
him as
the
greatest
General.
So do
you in
any way
feel
betrayed ?
I’m
frustrated;
because
I felt
it was
not
done.
The way
he
entered
politics
and also
the way
he
behaved
during
the
campaign.
This is
a
democratic
country
and
anyone
can come
into
politics.
The
President
is the
one who
selected
him as
the
commander
of the
Army,
because
he was
about to
retire
and had
only
twelve
days
left. We
could
have
done
this
with any
other
commander,
we could
have
used
Shantha
Kottegoda
but we
prematurely
retired
Shantha
Kottegoda
and gave
Sarath
Fonseka
the
opportunity
and
during
this
period
we
helped
him
professionally
and
personally.
Forgetting
all
these
things,
he came
to
contest
the
Presidential
Election
from his
post of
the
Chief of
Defence
Staff. I
thought
it was
not
ethical,
even the
people
thought
in a
similar
way and
answered
that
question
at the
polls.
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